I am closing the blog for sailing and I will get back to my sailing chair somewhere in October but in the meantime I will like to offer you all a last post that I hope will contribute for a better information about boat safety stability and the RCD class A certification. Something that gives food for thought and eventually contributes to the implementation of a bluewater RCD certification class.
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When the RCD was being drafted they invited naval architects and naval engineers from several nations to contribute with studies and thoughts regarding yacht stability, including safety and final stability.
The general consensus regarding an offshore boat, what the Americans call a bluewater boat, was that it should have an AVS of about 130º and the correspondent final stability.
There is logic in what regards that number. There are studies that indicate that the average time for a boat with an AVS of 120º to re-right itself on the same sea conditions that lead to an inversion is between one and two minutes.
But things are not that simple because if the boat is inverted by a rough much bigger wave, that time can be much, much bigger and if one is on the cockpit at the steering wheel, even if attached to the boat, things can get ugly even with a one minute period.
So, taking all that discussion into consideration ,what is the AVS that is considered minimum to a class A boat to pass the RCD certification? Yes, the 130º value was considered but it is a maximum value that comes in a formula, this one: 130 - 0,002m) but always ≥ 100°, being m the boat mass.
That means that a yacht with a small mass, a small boat, will need an AVS not very far from 130º but it also means that on a considerably bigger boat the AVS can be close to 100º.
And, of course, increasing ballast to better the AVS creates more RM and more efforts on the boat hull and structure making the boat more expensive.
The result is that mass production builders tend to follow the RCD minimum requirements in what regards AVS opting for one slightly above the one that formula gives as minimum. More expensive boats usually opt for having a higher AVS (having a bigger B/D) one considerably above the minimum that is determined by the rule for Class A, normally near 120º but rarely 130º or over 130º.
Pogo 12.50 |
Sadly, due to lack of awareness of the public, some of the brands that make more expensive boats, like Wauquiez (Pilot Saloon) or Amel have abandoned that practice and come close to the one followed by the cheaper mass production boats, having an AVS not far from the minimum that is required for the Class A certification of the boat.
More expensive boats are made to a budget too and some are choosing to spend all the extra money on an even more luxurious interior and I would say with very good market results, but misleading sailors that assume that those boats have a better stability and seaworthiness than mass market boats.
Some examples to make clear the variation of the minimum AVS required (for certification on class A) with the boat mass : A Pogo 30 will need a 124.4º AVS, an Oceanis 41.1 an AVS of 114.3, an Oceanis 46.1 needs a 108.8 AVS and an Amel 50 needs only one AVS bigger than 100º (these values are approximate).
Elan Impression 444 |
This will allow Amel to say that an AVS of 110º (or so) is vastly above what is demanded for the certification of the boat as Class A, giving the impression that the yacht has a very good final stability and a very good AVS when in reality it is an average one and a poor one for a bluewater boat, if we take as measure those 130º that were considered on those studies as the value indicated for a bluewater boat.
And if we look at the B/D of the two Oceanis, both the smaller and the bigger one, we will see that with similar keels and not very different drafts (2.19, 2.35m), the smaller one needs a B/D of 29% while the bigger one only needs 25% to be slightly above the required AVS for the class A certification, meaning that the smaller boat has probably an AVS superior to the bigger one and I say probably because for good reason brands like Beneteau or Amel don’t make public the stability data of their boats.
Hallberg Rassy 44 |
Note that the same stability safety reasons that lead to consider necessary an AVS not far away from 130º on smaller yachts are not less valid on bigger ones even if RCD gives a different impression.
The only thing that changes is the bigger risk of being rolled by a wave on a smaller yacht (because the overall stability is smaller) meaning that a bigger boat will need a bigger breaking wave to be rolled. Not so much in what regards a knockdown by a bigger gust of wind or by one of the increasingly more frequent weird meteorological phenomena, since the sail area is proportional to the boat mass.
But I do know of several 40 to 45 (some bigger) yachts inverted by waves, numerous cases of yachts that were knocked down and a considerable number that were abandoned after several knockdowns.
I am sure that some will be asking themselves what has the AVS to do with knock downs? Or even with an inverted boat?
A lot, because a high AVS implies a big safety stability, meaning that not only the boat would be much harder to knock down as it will recover much faster from one and that is vitally important, because when a boat lies flat on the water has very few remaining positive stability and it will be at the mercy of the next wave.
That’s why most boats that are rolled are not by a single wave but by a set of two: the first one takes out the boat stability (knocking it out) the second one rolls the yacht.
An higher AVS means also that the area under the positive stability (on a RM curve) is much bigger, several times bigger, than the one over the negative stability, meaning that a much smaller wave than the one that had it inverted, can bring the boat back.
If the positive area of the curve is 4 times bigger, it means that for bringing the boat back, from an inverted position, you will need a wave 4 times smaller than the one that inverted it. If the positive area is only two times bigger that means that you will need, to re-right the boat, a wave half the size the one that inverted it and that, if the boat was inverted by a rough wave, it can be a problem.
Najad 450 cc |
While a small 33 ft light yacht (that to be certified as class A has to have a better AVS than the one of a bigger boat) will recover very quickly from a knock down, the typical 45 mass production yacht (that can be certified with a much lower AVS) will take much more time and in some cases the water on the sails can even prevent it to right up on any reasonable period of time, leaving it exposed to the waves with little stability remaining.
We can conclude that the Class A certification, as a measure of the boat stability and seaworthiness, is useful in what regards 30/33 ft boats and gives information about a more or less seaworthy boat (for instance, separating the Oceanis 30.1, that does not have the stability to be a class A, from the Hanse 315, that has), but it will say nothing about the seaworthiness differences (in what concerns stability) between an Oceanis 41.1 and an Hallberg Rassy 412: they are both class A boats (by a big margin) even if they are very different in what regards final stability and AVS.
Elan impression 394 |
And since the RCD main objective is to certificate products providing the public with information regarding their safety and conditions where they are safe to be used, it is obvious that in what regards boats over 36ft it fails miserably since they are almost all class A boats, giving the impression that they are equally suited for offshore, bluewater sailing.
Of course, the ones that gain with this situation are big mass production builders that want to make boats adapted to most users, the ones that will never sail in bad weather, boats with a smaller stability and AVS but with a certification that will put them on the same class of boats designed to be much more seaworthy and designed to be sailed on more demanding weather.
That is clearly a commercial advantage but it neither allows transparency in what regards sailboat characteristics and the market nor provides consumers with accurate information. I have to say that sail magazines have done nothing in what regards making clear this distinction between yachts with different final stability, negative stability and AVS.
That distinction cannot be evaluated on a test sail, that is rarely done in bad weather, much less with a knock down or inverted boat, but that difference results very clear when comparing stability curves. Magazines used to publish them but mysteriously stopped doing that. And even when they published them they never commented, specially if they revealed a poor AVS, final stability or a big negative stability.
It is ridiculous that the higher seaworthiness certification is today achieved by almost all cruising boats over 30ft. Should not the consumer who wants a much more seaworthy boat than a 30ft have the right to clear information about that?
That will only be possible creating a new higher seaworthiness and stability specifications class, one that will allow consumers to distinguish between boats like an Oceanis 41.1 and Halberg Rassy 412 and that will separate boats that can be sailed offshore from the ones that are designed to be sailed offshore, bluewater boats.
There have been talks about that for a long time but I don’t see any will to pass that to the law since big boatbuilders are completely against that new class, for obvious reasons, that have nothing to do with transparency, information and public interest.
Hunter Legend 50 |
There are more factors on the RCD in what regards seaworthiness and stability, like the minimum energy at 90º, the downflooding angle and the STIX but they are secondary to AVS, final stability and negative stability. Sure, the minimum energy at 90º is very important but it is directly related to the AVS (since the types of hulls today are very similar), the downflooding angle is very important and should be considered but it is easily improved and does not depend on the basic stability of the sailboat while the STIX only gives a general idea of the boat overall stability, not final stability and it has a factor that can count very negatively without reason, I am referring to the boat sail area, as if the sails could not be easily reefed.
For the ones that think that I am exaggerating let me remind you that the IMOCA are self-rightening. We could say that they are designed to be sailed on the southern seas and the worst seas on the planet but that is not the case with the 40 class that are meant to be ocean racers.
On the 40 class box rule it is not only demanded that the boat pass the stability criteria to be approved as a class A boat but to ” proving that the boat is capable of righting itself from the broached position with empty ballast tanks.
It must be when heeled at 90 degrees … the boat in measurement trim is kept in this position with the aid of a strop passed around the mast at the level of the measurement band at the top point of the mast ... the load exerted on the strop must be a minimum of 235 kg and a maximum of 320 kg.”
This on a boat with a displacement of a bit more than 4000 kg and a mast of around 20m means a huge RM at 90º. On a cruising boat that weights 2, 3 or 4 times more that value should be 2, 3 or 4 times more. Those values for the 40 class boats are so big that give most of them the ability to be self-righting (using the water ballast).
Hanse 430 |
These values of RM at 90º are not only measured on the water (and not on the paper) but also are several times bigger than the ones that result from the stability curves needed to certify a yacht in Class A.
Should not a cruising boat meant to be sailed bluewater have at least similar final stability values, the ones that warrant that the yacht is capable of righting itself quickly from a broached position? Should not consumers that want to buy a bluewater boat have accurate information about this? Is it not for that that the RCD exists?
Certainly they are not being informed now, since the RCD allows yachts to be certified in Class A with an AVS just a little bit over 100º and such a boat in sailing trim, with sails on the water, would not be able to right itself from a broached position on a short period of time, staying there, knocked down, almost without positive stability at the mercy of the waves.
A new RCD category for bluewater boats, against the will of mass production builders, will only happen if there is enough public pressure and for that sailors have to be informed and aware of what is going on.
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Its like spending money on a granite countertop instead of insulation. I know nothing about sailing, however your point is so clear it makes me think of Boeing.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting read, thanks!
ReplyDeleteGreat analysis and important discussion. It is indeed strange that practically all bigger boats get af Class A certification.
ReplyDeleteThere is something i do not quite understand. The french bluewater sailors are very happy with centerboard boats. How is the stability margins and AVS in such boats? Their B/D Ratio is commonly around 30-35% but the CG must still be higher than a traditional keel boat with the same ratio? I have heard an argumenet that a keel boat can trip over its keel and a centerboard will slide with a breaking wave - but is that true in your opinion?
/Martin
Yes, it is true that a centerboarder will have less tendency to trip over the small area of the centerboard (if down) than boats with keels with a considerable wet area.
ReplyDeleteCenterboarders and boats with a foil and a torpedo keel will convert most of the energy of a breaking wave on sliding movement over the water while a full keel boat will have almost all the energy converted on a rotational movement.
40 years ago Tabarly, one of the greatest sailors of all times, pointed that fact on a book that we wrote about sailing and he had a vast knowledge regarding sailing in all types of boats, sometimes in extreme conditions (his family boat has an old full keel boat).
Off course, in what regards centerboards that advantage does not take away two dangerous situations, a knock down situation and an inverted situation. If the inverted situation can happen less frequently a knock out situation will happen much more times...and if the boat as a small AVS and a small final stability, it can take too much time to recover and stay a long time in a vulnerable and dangerous situation.
But let me tell you that the centerboards have to comply with the RCD AVS (and other stability criteria) to be certified as class A and also that in what regards stability they are not all the same.
OVNIS, tend to pass the RCD minimum AVS by a short margin but Allures, having almost all ballast outside, on a kind of skeg and having the hull in aluminum and the deck in vacuum sandwich have a considerable better final stability and AVS, in fact better than the one of most mass production sailboats.
Thank you!
ReplyDeleteHi Paulo,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your brilliant site, I appreciate your commentary very much.
This post gives me a little heartburn however. AVS is a static number that feels too simplistic for the highly dynamic situations we encounter in a storm at sea. It says nothing about moment of intertia, lateral keel resistance, how the vessel is typically loaded, risk of pitchpoling or burying the bow, or impact of water ballast on moment of inertia.
Here is a lovely discussion that considers moment of inertia and keel lateral resistance: http://marine.marsh-design.com/content/dynamic-stability-monohull-beam-sea
I suppose you could argue "yes, but it's the best we have". Perhaps, but where do you draw the line? 115 is not acceptable for an offshore boat, but 120 is? Feels arbitrary without considering many other factors.
Warm regards,
Whitall
Hi!
DeleteAVS is not a static number and it means Angle of Vanishing Stability, the angle at which a boat will not recover from a capsize and will stay inverted. It does not happen only on the paper but on the water too and when it happens the situation is very dynamic LOL
As I said in the post, before the RCD was created, on the preliminary discussions, that joined many naval architects and naval engineers from several countries, the number that was regarded as suitable for a bluewater sailboat was not 120º but 130º and yes I can tell you that on a well designed sailboat that difference on AVS has a big relevance in what regards safety stability and inverted stability as you should be able to see on the different stability curves on the post.
A well designed boat with a 130º AVS will have a stability curve with a big area under the positive side of the curve and a small area under the negative part of the curve, meaning that the difference in size between a wave able to invert it and a wave able to bring it back to its feet is huge.
This means that with a 130º AVS a wave about 3 or 4 times smaller than the one that inverted the boat will be able to right it up while with an AVS of 110/115 that difference will be of about half, meaning that you would need a wave half the size of the one that had inverted the boat to right it up.
In practical terms it means that on a seaway with waves able to invert the sailboat, on the first case you will stay less than a minute inverted while on the other you can stay 5 or 10 minutes (there are at least a case where it took 20 minutes). If you are outside harnessed to the boat it may be the difference between staying alive or drown.
Besides that a 130º AVS has as consequence a stability curve with a much bigger RM at 90º and that means the boat will recover much faster from a knock down and will have much less chances to be caught still laying on the side by another wave, that has many chances to invert it.
I am talking about a new RCD category and the main factors regarding stability and certification on the RCD are the STIX number, the AVS, different stability curves with the boat with different loads and the downflooding angle so it is appropriated to talk about these factors and not others.
I don't understand why you are talking about the impact of water ballast on the moment of inertia since very few production sailboats have water ballast.
The moment of inertia has more importance regarding ships and motorboats and even less on sailboats now that almost all have a beamy hull, if compared with a century ago.
Look at what type of boats the author of the article you mention designs and you will see why he considers it very important and yes, for that type of boats it is important.
regards,
Paulo
Hi Paulo,
ReplyDeletesince the majority of boats are just barely A rated, and honestly I don't see how that is going to change.. then how do you feel about installing CO2 charged buoyancy device somewhere near the top of the mast that would activate automatically in the event of the capsize. This would greatly diminish negative stability on any cruising sailboat.
Most of the time when a boat is rolled the mast breaks, so a buoyancy device on top of the mast will only serve to increase the risk of mast breaking when a boat is rolled.
DeleteIf we are not taking about a boat rolled but capsized to 90 degrees and taking too much time to right itself up, increasing dramatically the risk of being rolled by the next wave, then the buoyancy device serves no purpose because it will do nothing to re-right the boat.